I often see people speaking as if atheists have some sort of group identity. A useful fact to know: we don't, except in so far as it is forced upon us by society.
Atheists are less like a coherent group and more like people who refuse the bags at the grocery store. We bag rejectors have some commonalities, e.g. most of us use cloth bags. We are happiest when people just give us the time to indicate that we do not want to participate in their plastic bag rituals, and most of the time people do. But some people start grouping us together as "liberal tree hugging hippies", and at that point we have to start acting as a group and try to get bag rejectors treated like normal people. Yes, we hope that more will join us along the way and we realize that telling people they are dirtying up our sidewalks will make us unpopular. Some of us will cringe at the inaccuracy of statements that imply that plastic bags are single handedly destroying the planet. We do not speak in one voice; we do not even have shared goals. Some will want to get everyone using reusable bags. Others will just want to open people up to the idea that this might be a good thing. Still others just want to be able to go on their grocery trip without, once again, confusing the clerk and getting dirty looks from other customers for slowing down the line. However, we all recognize that, regardless of the particular statements we make, the only way to accomplish our goals is to get out there where people will see us.
- A public service announcement
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I kinda love you for this.
I will have to remember this comparison! (But only when I'm talking to people who don't think people who refuse bags are all a specific type.)
But only when I'm talking to people who don't think people who refuse bags are all a specific type.
Do you come across these sorts of people a lot? If so, I'm sorry.
Do you come across these sorts of people a lot? If so, I'm sorry.
I do not, but really, my refusing bags (except when I forget) only comes up with cashiers. And I have gotten a lot of what I interpret as "whatever, you hippy" looks.
This is also true for people with a religious affiliation. I, for example, am Christian, but I don't want to be connected to every right-wing angry pastor who appears on the media. People tend to assume what my beleifs and responses will be based on what they know of a large demographic, and this isn't always accurate.
This reminds me of the earlier post you made about stereotyping minorities' behavior (the girls and math post).
This reminds me of the earlier post you made about stereotyping minorities' behavior (the girls and math post).
I agree. There is a technical difference between being involuntarily lumped into a group and voluntarily being part of a group that is misrepresented because of the actions of the minority, but the upshot of the two cases is the same: it sucks to be stereotyped.
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2008-12-04 01:50 am (UTC)